Curse

brokenmonkey · Jun 20, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

at least its not a FPS like CS or Unreal where everyone calls you a fag if you get a headshot on them -.-

haha yea lyra.. dont mind them, just own them haha =)

LifeInfusion · Jun 20, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

I think it is because of the word "noob". Too many people don't want to be called it, yet use it themselves.

Supposedly buying FoW armor with Ebayed money (or so goes the stereotypes), makes you "mad leet".

Back on topic.

My conjecture is that many people who have heard about the game have friends that are in higher level areas or missions. They cannot possibly catch up instantaneously. The result is they end up being run.

Being run without playing through with at least one character leads to faster boredom with the game, lack of knowledge of skills/mechanics/tactics, and general looking down upon newer players. So there is Class A of jerks: people that get run and do not know what they are doing, looking down on players who seemingly have lower status because they are not up to the same point.

Now on to Class B of jerks. There is the group of players who has been playing longer than the newer players. Instead of helping them get ahead, this class of "jerk" tells them wrong information, on purpose. Example: where to cap _____ and someone tells the newer player to go to a place that is the opposite end of the map.

Kriel Drache · Jun 21, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

I've found that being a cynic in real life helps greatly. Granted, it makes me more prone to viewing a few select people as my intellectual inferiors, but I'll still be helpful in-game as long as you don't prove yourself an idiot or a jerk.

God Apprentice · Jun 21, 2006, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Probably one of the biggest things that people will trash you for is playing IWAY. The problem is that if you're not ranked at HA you don't get into many groups, whereas IWAY even the unranked players can easily slip into it

AceeBlueEagle · Jun 21, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

My thoughts are that if the person does not have the moral fortitude to do the right thing to other people in a game setting with few consequences, most likely they will act the same / consider acting the same in real life. Jerks are jerks period. Scammers are scammers period.

Nothing makes me crazier than scammers / people knowingly taking advantage of other players.

There are real people piloting those little toons all over GW's fictional world. And yes, many of them need a good therapist or a good paddle across their backside.

doinchi · Jun 28, 2006, 06:26 AM // 06:26

I can't help but disagree. Ive been playing for about 5 days, and my first impresion is everyone ive met is polite and helpful. People ran me to places for free, gave me junk form their bank that turned out to be extremely valuable, people gave me advice on quests, offered to help me through missions. And not once, not once have I heard the word "noob". Im not kidding, ive not once!

There are people who kick me from farming partys, but they explain to me im not able to survive long enough and tell me their sorry.

This is without a doubt, the most friendl RPG ive played so far... So far..

krysbigcat · Jun 28, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

i have two characters on the go my elemental/necromancer is in the barren (post searing is it) area and my other a mesmer/ranger is still in the first area you join the game in, although my char is now level 9 i am happy to keep her in this area to help out those who have either just joined or are trying to level up, i have on several occassions dropped items that they need that i no longer require so they can complete a quest or get their next level of clothing, to me that is just being a courteous gamer.

so if anyone has a character in the first area and needs help look out for AZURA DRAGONSOUL i will be happy to oblige

Rothen Kithkanan · Jun 28, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41

One of my main gripes is people trying to make money. now dont get me wrong, I have no issue with people having rich characters and have more spare cash knocking around than i know what to do with. I'm a straight pve player and will quite often sell items well below their baseline price in an attempt to either shift quickly or to do people a cheap deal. Bugs the hell out of me when someone takes you up on the offer and then calls you the biigest noob ever as their about to go off and sell the same thing for X amount.

Fair play to em is what i say, but it annoys me that they asume what sort of player you are.

arcanemacabre · Jun 28, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by doinchi

I can't help but disagree. Ive been playing for about 5 days, and my first impresion is everyone ive met is polite and helpful. People ran me to places for free, gave me junk form their bank that turned out to be extremely valuable, people gave me advice on quests, offered to help me through missions. And not once, not once have I heard the word "noob". Im not kidding, ive not once!

There are people who kick me from farming partys, but they explain to me im not able to survive long enough and tell me their sorry.

This is without a doubt, the most friendl RPG ive played so far... So far..

Same here, man. Except I've been playing for about 5 months. Mostly, the people I've run into have been really nice. There's a few jerks here and there, yeah, but I don't see any major 'decline in friendlyness'.

I will say I can't stand scammers, either. I haven't been scammed, but not for lack of others trying. I read up on the latest scams, and when I trade, I pay attention to everything. I've even been known to help people who have been scammed. I got a droks run once, and one of the guys being run skipped the bill, so I gave the runner my amount plus the scammer's out of good faith. Some people have no problem with being complete asses for a couple of thousand gold.

Silent Kitty · Jun 28, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

I have a problem with players who stand in town for hours begging for 50G so they can open an storage account. What kind of gaming strategy is that? Are they scammers who think they can get rich that way? Are they lazy and hope they never have to leave town to kill something? Or are they stupid and don't know that there is much more to the game than the Shing Jea Monastery?
Than you have the people who try to buy credits for 50G, knowing very well that they can easily be sold for twice that much.
As long as noob number one meets scammer number two, there will always jerks and losers in this game. It is just like real life. As long as there is an overly active innocent, there will always be people who try to scam him/her out of the last gold piece. Scammers don't care how much they steal people. They have made someone feel inadequate, and that is what they thrive on. Like "Wow, I have scammed someone out of 50 gold! I must be the best gamer in the world!" From than on, that player's behaviour will go on a downward spiral.

Seissor · Jun 28, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11

I've noticed increased activity when it comes to scamming. And people telling me my items I am selling are useless. "its only worth 5k jerk!" 15 mins later I sell it for 80k....durrrr.

I find in the more competitive areas you get jerks, HoH, TA, RA, 12 v 12. Its like competing and beating someoen a game is as good to them as a real life achievement.

I would venture a guess, the bad behavior is due to holiday time and alot of new blood wandering into GW and GW:F

However for every 10 retards I meet, I meet one really cool and very friendly player :-) So its not all bad.

Demesis · Jun 28, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Seissor

However for every 10 retards I meet, I meet one really cool and very friendly player :-) So its not all bad.

Then when Shiro wins, the universe will spiral out of balance and the ratio will be 50:1.

Numa Pompilius · Jun 28, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by God Apprentice

Probably one of the biggest things that people will trash you for is playing IWAY.

Oh lord, people will give you grief for anything which isn't fashionable or FotM. It's amusing to be accused of being a newbie when you've been playing since the week after release (because you're, say, sporting a fiery dragon sword. A gold perfect one. In the shiverpeaks).

However, the biggest change since release has been the shift of player focus from gaming to farming. I often wonder if *anyone* plays for fun any more, or if everyone is solely running to farm the latest greatest green. A lot of players seem to be playing exclusively to farm.

Another new thing is the constant "i suk u" dry-humping simulated sex. I hardly saw any of that before the PvP weekend/when europe started getting favor regularly, after that it just exploded. Personally I think it's not because of age or because they're new players, but because that was when the leet-brigade returned to EU from the US.

It's particularly depressing in Lions Arch and the Random Arena - pretty much all the messages in the ALL channel is either trade spam or "i suk u". No wonder people turn off all chat.

What one could do about it?
Well, possibly an auction house would help somewhat against the trade spam, but I suspect people would just put items up for auction AND spam chat. As for other behavior... well, I try to lead by example. Don't know what else one can do.

jciardha · Jun 28, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I don't know if the level of jerkiness has increased, but I know I have totally lost patience with jerks. I used to just put up with them, put them on ignore until the end of a mission or turn off team chat, or whatnot. These days, I can't stand to be in a home district for more than five seconds before I feel filthy. Thank God for International Districts, where it's generally quieter, friendly, and overall saner. The only time I surface from International is when I absolutely have to PUG.

There are exceptions of course, such as Kaineng or Lion's Arch International whenever Gaile visits. And sometimes, LA International is just a cesspool of spam and griefing, from idiots who think it's cool to do so. Yet, International remains the best escape hatch.

Ariana Of Damia · Jun 28, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I think most of the people I met when I was a "Noob" were nice to me too. But I recently re-invented a char and found not as many people willing to help as last summer.

_,.-+=’* ♥ Aurelio Furor [AUR] ♥ *’=+-.,_
Ariana Of Damia (Mo/Rt) ♥ Electra Of Damia (W/Mo) ♥ Lexa Of Damia (E/Mo)
Lily Of Damia (R/Mo) ♥ Mia Of Damia (Me/Mo) ♥ Zarina Of Damia (N/Mo)

Paladin_Adoni · Jun 29, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

they were always there, now though, they know alot more ways to be jerks in GW, so they stand out more.

plus, the first time you played through, there was the whole WOW (NOT World of Warcraft) factor to the game, but now, if you've played it already, thats gone, so you look at other things, the only other thing to look at is the players.

also, after beating the game, you generally spend alot more time selling and trading, and thats when you really notice the jerks

xiao1985 · Jun 29, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

lol funny how that happened to me 3 times (lol yes 3 times) at hell's precipice... i was after the mission, first group capped skill and left, 2nd group, 2 mo (me being one) , first left after cappin a necro skill, a warr soon left after that and i quitted too (knowing hell's a long and tedious fight), 3rd group are full of map explorers would enjoy a little bit of aggro'ing and makes monks run all over the map jsut to heal them... i ended up finishing the mission with a bunch of french group who were wondering in english district...

hench ftw...
but good sportsmanship players FTDW!!
(tho they are a rare breed these days)

Olde Fockre · Jun 29, 2006, 11:09 AM // 11:09

My 7 year old son plays on our account. I watch him while he plays. People have been nothing but nice to him. A lot of level 20s have gone out with him and helped him complete quests. Many have given him good weapons. The worst he's run in to is being asked if he speaks english because of his spelling. I've also seen him give away some pretty good stuff. So, he's learning from the example of the nice players.

Demesis · Jun 29, 2006, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Olde Fockre

My 7 year old son plays on our account. I watch him while he plays. People have been nothing but nice to him. A lot of level 20s have gone out with him and helped him complete quests. Many have given him good weapons. The worst he's run in to is being asked if he speaks english because of his spelling. I've also seen him give away some pretty good stuff. So, he's learning from the example of the nice players.

I hope you don't leave your son on GW for too long. Sooner or later he's gonna meet an asshole and he's going to come crying to you...

Olde Fockre · Jun 29, 2006, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by Demesis

I hope you don't leave your son on GW for too long. Sooner or later he's gonna meet an asshole and he's going to come crying to you...

Let me me know when you're going to be playing so we can avoid that.